Bad Chick Blockchain with SoVonna Day-Goins

Today on BGF, Ava and Tashuanda interview Sovonna Day-Goins, Founder and CEO of Women X Meta. Together they discuss Web 3 and how SoVonna started Women X Meta with her daughters.  Tashaunda shares personal stories about resistant to technology, and Ava discusses millennial apprehension to new advances. The three ladies also dive into the importance of finding excitement in learning new things.

To learn more about SoVanna and Women X Meta, please visit:  https://womenxmeta.xyz/
https://sociatap.com/WomenXMeta/

Let's chat in the comments on instagram- @blackgirlflyofficial! What do you think about Web 3?

EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
[:23] Introductions
[2:22] What made you switch careers
[4:50] Defining Blockchain
[5:45] Working with her daughters
[8:47] Structuring the business for success
[12:12 ] What does the business offer
[16:00] Boomer and Gen X fear of the unknown
[19:20] How the business was received
[22:20] Taking the first steps with web 3
[25:23] Fear of the unknown with millennials 
[29:48] Wisdom and Knowledge for the audience
[32:06] Get in touch with SoVonna
[35:30] Closing/Outro 

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Transcript

Welcome back to another episode of Black Girl Fly. | 0:32
I am your girl, Ava Marie. | 0:35
And I'm Tashaunda Dixon. | 0:37
today we have a wonderful guest joining us today. | 0:39
We are so thrilled to have you here. | 0:43
I'm just going to hand over the mic just to let you introduce yourself, let the people know who we have here today. | 0:45
Awesome. | 0:53
Well, my name is Sovanna Day Going, and that is actually my maiden and married name put together. | 0:54
My first name, Sovanna, is rather unique, but it's my two sister's names, Sonia and Ivan. | 1:01
I just wanted to make my name as complicated as possible. | 1:07
Sovanna day goins makes it really interesting. | 1:10
So who am I? | 1:14
I'm a Midwestern girl who ended up starting her career in New York City, taking on the big city from the small country girl that I was. | 1:16
I came here and did a lot of different things, including sales, kind of that door to door stuff all the way to high finance on Wall Street. | 1:28
I spent 30 years investment banking and I consider myself somewhat of a reform banker by jumping into what is Web Three, which is really decentralized finance. | 1:41
I did that with my two daughters. | 1:56
we're an intergenerational Web Three company trying to educate more women and people of color to come in and understand what this new digital economy looks like so that we can create intergenerational pathways as well. | 1:58
As well. | 2:14
That is super cool. | 2:17
To get started, tell us, like, so. | 2:19
You had this experience. | 2:22
What made you make the switch? | 2:24
What were you seeing? | 2:26
What was going on that made you say, hey, I do something different? | 2:27
Well, I think we all go through this journey in life and career, and for me it was as I had a very successful banking career, enjoyed what I did. | 2:32
From the standpoint of how I serve customers and clients, I think I was always looking for democracy, equity in the practice, and I think this is universally across the board. | 2:46
I don't think it matters that much which industry you are in. | 3:03
Representation is lacking. | 3:07
I think I also saw how capital flows and that oftentimes it was not flowing to marginalized communities. | 3:10
I think with those two things in mind, I wanted to take a step away. | 3:19
I was officially retiring, but I also said I knew I wouldn't stay that way, but I was retiring thinking I was going to take some time off. | 3:26
So I flunked that big time. | 3:35
I literally left and had already had in mind this business with my daughters. | 3:38
you want to right away you retire at all? | 3:44
No, not at all. | 3:46
Even before I left, I was kind of ideating and working through this process, so I never even got the break. | 3:49
I think I was so excited about the promise of what this new economy could be. | 3:56
when I say that crypto is just one small part of what Web Three is. | 4:04
It's not all of what's here. | 4:09
The technology is what truly excited me. | 4:11
When I think about Blockchain technology, I was like, what? | 4:15
This is one time where we can truly create new ways of living, working, playing, how do we do this differently? | 4:18
the pandemic showed us that we really did need to try to do something different. | 4:27
that's kind of what excited me about the change. | 4:33
I wanted to have impact and I thought that maybe for once we could build something that really centered the voices of women and people of color. | 4:38
Yeah. | 4:48
can you explain to the audience what is blockchain? | 4:48
What is that specifically? | 4:51
When I think about blockchain, I think about it as the way we used to do things. | 4:53
We would record them on some big ledger and it would just be written down here's every transaction that's happened. | 4:58
Well, what Blockchain really is that big computerized ledger that is decentralized across a big network of computers. | 5:05
it allows us to actually record these transactions in a way that it's not one single point of failure that we are used to. | 5:15
We are used to companies really controlling and mining all of our data, whereas the blockchain decentralizes that and allows that information to be housed in a place where it's in public view. | 5:23
It opens it up so everybody knows. | 5:37
Now it opens it up and you get to own it. | 5:39
And that's what's beautiful about it. | 5:42
Okay, so in this, you retired for retired air quotation market. | 5:44
Yes. | 5:53
you decided to do this, but you took it on with your daughters. | 5:54
How did that happen? | 5:58
Were they interested or was it you just come in, come on, let's go. | 5:59
How did that work out? | 6:03
Well, I don't know if you have children yet, but there is no come on, let's go with adult children. | 6:05
So that's not how that works. | 6:10
to be honest, it really worked the opposite direction. | 6:12
My oldest daughter is an educator, and she was at an Ed tech conference and she called me up and said, mom, she said, I'm at this conference. | 6:16
It's so exciting. | 6:26
They're talking about teaching kids in the Metaverse, and they're talking about how Esports and all these laboratories that are going to be built is the future of education. | 6:27
she's like, it's so exciting because she had spent a year and a half of the three years that she was a teacher doing it virtually. | 6:36
Oh, wow. | 6:45
she was creating these virtual experiences for her kids because she said it's not their fault that a pandemic has happened. | 6:45
Right. | 6:54
They shouldn't have learning loss. | 6:54
It's my responsibility to create an experience that they can actually learn from. | 6:57
So she did that. | 7:03
she was truly excited that there was actually talk about how to do this on a more global scale. | 7:04
Yeah. | 7:10
But she turned to me. | 7:11
she said, what do about the Metaverse? | 7:13
I said, Well, I don't know anything about the metaverse. | 7:15
I said, I'm just going to be completely honest with you, but I said, Why don't we all? | 7:18
So I have two daughters. | 7:23
My oldest who was the educator, my youngest who's a true Gen Z, okay? | 7:25
I said, Why don't the three of us explore what we think about this? | 7:31
Well, my youngest is like, this is a no brainer. | 7:36
There's nothing to think about. | 7:38
She's like, It is totally the future. | 7:40
My friends already invested in crypto and NFTs, right? | 7:42
we are already digital native, so it's only where the technology is going next. | 7:46
for her, it was just like, this is what we're supposed to do. | 7:52
So guess what? | 7:55
The old Gen Xer had to do her research. | 7:56
the Gen Xer is the one who said, wait a minute, hold on, let me do some investigating. | 7:59
I think it was so incredibly united in our beliefs that if weren't going to do this in the third generation of the Internet, when are we going to do it right? | 8:06
When are we going to create something that is built with a diverse set of voices? | 8:21
they said to me, mom, it's the third time around. | 8:28
This is it. | 8:32
We got to go do this. | 8:33
So that's where we are. | 8:34
That is a really awesome story. | 8:38
you guys come together, you've done your research. | 8:41
What next? | 8:45
How do you get started? | 8:46
Lot of a lot of groundwork. | 8:49
So here's where we compliment one another. | 8:51
We have an educator on the team. | 8:54
My youngest is just like your little digital. | 8:57
We call her the society sleuth. | 9:01
she goes around and figures out what people are actually caring about and what they want. | 9:03
And then I'm the business, right? | 9:10
I'm like, okay, how do we structure ourselves right, for success? | 9:13
in getting started, it was all foundational stuff, right? | 9:19
How do you write the documents about the business that you are starting? | 9:24
Who do you bring on as your founding team? | 9:28
Right? | 9:31
How do you structure it such that you have the support that you need around you? | 9:31
What are the legal implications of what we're about to get into? | 9:36
What is the accounting? | 9:39
It's all the stuff that is boring and nobody really cares about it, but it's critically important to manage from a risk perspective. | 9:41
that's what I set out to do. | 9:49
I happened to have a colleague of mine on my way out the door, say to me, if you ever think about doing something related to gaming, give me a call. | 9:52
Oh, wow. | 10:05
That's the funniest conversation that I still recall today, which is, why would I ever do that? | 10:06
that was kind of my response, like, okay, sure. | 10:14
But it resonated with me. | 10:18
this started to come along, I called him up and I said, guess what? | 10:20
I said, I am thinking about something that's slightly related to gaming. | 10:25
What do you know about the Metaverse? | 10:31
And he said, well, you know what? | 10:33
It's sort of interesting. | 10:35
I've been a probably a lifelong gamer, but I've learned a lot about the metaverse recently, and it just so happened that he and his wife were investigating how they might get involved in this. | 10:36
Oh, wow. | 10:49
what I did is I stole his wife from him, and I said, you don't want to go do it with him? | 10:50
You want to come do it with us? | 11:00
I said, Because we're a bunch of bad. | 11:02
I sold her. | 11:06
He still laments about that today. | 11:09
He says his wife actually stole me from him as his mentor. | 11:11
I was like, no, no. | 11:15
I I knew who the better half was, so I stole her. | 11:16
I also kind of did it in a way of saying, we both are mothers of daughters and hers are little. | 11:20
I said, we are trying to create a legacy here. | 11:29
I said, It means a lot to me, the pathway I'm creating for not only my children, but yours and those who come after them. | 11:33
she bought into it and joined us, and so we kind of built the building blocks, and that's how we got started, by just saying, where are the strengths? | 11:43
She's a financial wealth advisor, which I thought was a great complement to what were doing educationally on the digital side. | 11:56
I said, People need financial literacy, digital literacy and professional literacy. | 12:04
how do you combine that into what we're doing? | 12:12
I was going to say, I don't think you really told people everything that you offer yet. | 12:14
Exactly. | 12:24
That's exactly what I was going to ask. | 12:25
what is your company and what do you do? | 12:27
Principally, we started by basically putting out educational content on what is web three across all the social media platforms, because my view was we're an intergenerational company, which means that we think every voice, no matter what age or what vocation, matters here, right. | 12:30
you don't have to be tech literate or savvy to be important to this ecosystem. | 12:53
we just started saying what holds people back is that information is everywhere. | 13:01
Right. | 13:08
You can search for anything you want to search for on Google or what have you, but what it's not is really compartmentalized in a way that makes connections to people in their everyday life. | 13:08
you can go down this rabbit hole of doing all of this research and you guys know, it like you start typing in one thing, and then you're typing in another thing, and then you're hitting and you're clicking, and you just keep going deeper and deeper, and all of a sudden, you're like, I don't even know where I started. | 13:27
I don't even know what I was talking at all. | 13:42
Yeah, you have nothing. | 13:45
Right? | 13:47
So I was like, that's. | 13:48
because I have my daughter who's an educator, she's like, that's not informative to people. | 13:49
What you have to do is you got to break this stuff down, one, into sound bites that people can actually work on and absorb and then connect it to things they already know. | 13:56
Because this is not new in the sense that everything is a derivative of something old. | 14:09
It's just how we advance technology to make it work better for us. | 14:17
most of the problems we have every day are the same that they've had for centuries. | 14:24
it's so funny, though, I think, as you think about you guys being, like, intergenerational, I don't think that's as fundamental to people. | 14:30
You made it sound easy. | 14:38
Right. | 14:39
We're solving the same problems, but I don't think that you could get the same knowledge of that across all of those generations. | 14:40
Right. | 14:47
I don't think that everyone always understands that it's the same problem we've been solving. | 14:48
We just got a different solution in place. | 14:52
It's interesting to me if I think about women who are my age who have traveled this journey of career and raising families, and we're kind of on the other side of it, I would say we're not done yet. | 14:57
We are just looking for the excitement and the engagement that maybe what we've been doing has gotten a little stale, a little old, write a little routine. | 15:17
What's exciting is the opportunity to take all the things we know and apply it to how the world is moving. | 15:28
I think that's what I try to impress on people my age or even a little older. | 15:37
You aren't done learning, right? | 15:44
You just forgot how to have fun. | 15:46
You forgot how to innovate. | 15:49
You forgot how to take all that and apply it to something new. | 15:51
I try to make it exciting for them or think about what it felt like to be excited again. | 15:56
do you find that there's this I feel like there's a fear of the unknown. | 16:02
many people I'd say, I'm not sure of your age exactly, but in my generation, my mother was super talented, and she actually spent a lot of time investing in knowing what technology was doing. | 16:07
I meet so many women her age who just they're like, I'm not even attempted. | 16:21
It's too hard. | 16:27
It's too complicated. | 16:28
it kind of puts up a wall, if you will, and it blocks them from being able to have that wife, have that excitement that you're talking about. | 16:29
Well, I think that's why it matters, right, how you connect with people on this, which is come and learn it together with us, because our view of this is it's based on a community approach. | 16:36
Right? | 16:50
We can do this together because what I don't know, you can know. | 16:51
What you and I don't know, someone else in our community can know. | 16:55
And guess what? | 16:59
You've just leveraged your learning curve, you have to know the same thing at the same rate or amount. | 16:59
Yeah, I was going to say exactly. | 17:08
Your experience you talked about with your daughters, right. | 17:09
Bringing the educator together to make this happen. | 17:11
That's super cool. | 17:14
outside, I do want to tell you another story. | 17:15
My grandfather, my grandfather, he was super old school. | 17:17
He had a business, and my mom was trying to show him how he can do accounting now on the computer. | 17:21
This was 30 plus years ago, maybe 40 years ago. | 17:26
he's like, no, I'm not going to do it. | 17:30
No, I've been doing this for 20 years. | 17:32
here's my calculator and it works. | 17:35
Yes. | 17:39
my mom actually was really she was patient with him. | 17:40
Next thing you knew, he was using all technology. | 17:44
I don't know if you remember, but when they were burning the DVDs, he created a burning business and he was doing everything, and he was so excited. | 17:47
you could see that energy that you're talking about that came to him, that he surpassed everyone else once he figured out how to apply that. | 17:55
But excited and proud. | 18:05
Right. | 18:06
Because I think we're often dismissed, and I think the older you get, the more dismissed you become right. | 18:07
That somehow you don't have the capacity to do what young people do. | 18:15
some of what you all do, I don't need to do. | 18:21
Right. | 18:24
I also look at it from that standpoint, is like, my daughters can do things that I don't need to do. | 18:25
Right. | 18:32
But I can totally understand that. | 18:33
I can fill in gaps where they cannot. | 18:35
I think if you ask them, they are somewhat glad that they started this with me because I think it gave them of the support they needed because business is tough. | 18:38
I mean, you all know, right, it's not easy to start your own business. | 18:52
I think that I just provided the grounding that maybe helped it to be a little less scary. | 18:56
Yeah. | 19:05
Let's talk about uncertainty. | 19:06
This market has as much as they call FUD, right? | 19:08
Fear, uncertainty, and doubt that you can possibly have. | 19:13
Yeah. | 19:17
I was going to ask on that same note, like, how did your daughter learn? | 19:17
Or even the people that you engage with and you educate? | 19:25
How has the younger generation received this? | 19:28
What do you feel like it's really done for them? | 19:31
Well, I think for the younger generation, it's allowed them to be liberated. | 19:34
Right. | 19:39
if you think about how people want to work today, they want to be independent, freelancers. | 19:40
They have less desire to be a part of some fixed structure. | 19:50
It's not flexible enough for where people are. | 19:57
we're actually having a talent issue in corporate America. | 20:01
They're really struggling because went through this pandemic, gave people all the time, at least for knowledge workers, they got to go home. | 20:06
Right. | 20:15
we gave people back some of their connection to their home life and their families. | 20:16
And they liked it. | 20:22
Right. | 20:24
Despite the fact that were all dealing with some really horrible, amorphous idea of a pandemic. | 20:25
Right. | 20:32
The idea that were closer connected to one another, even though as a family, even though you were further apart from everyday people, was something that really triggered for a lot of people, which was, what am I doing with my day in my life? | 20:33
I think for young people, they've just decided that the way we used to do it or what we thought was important is not necessarily as important. | 20:52
many things, because of technology, can be done from home. | 21:03
We don't have to all gather in one place to get things done. | 21:09
It actually drives my girls crazy whenever I suggest an in person meeting because they're like, Why? | 21:12
We can accomplish the same thing, just like we're doing here on Zoo. | 21:20
They're like, Why? | 21:25
I said, Because we need to be closer. | 21:26
They're like, no, we don't need that. | 21:31
There's some time for that. | 21:34
it's not what you have to have. | 21:35
I think for young people, they figured out how to use this tool right, to change their life in a way that wasn't really possible before. | 21:38
Yeah, I would say grocery shopping online with the delivery. | 21:49
Do how many hours that saved me already? | 21:53
It's true. | 21:56
You can just click, click. | 21:58
You don't have to go down the aisles and then change your mind and look at everything. | 22:00
Pick s*** up that you don't need. | 22:05
Yes. | 22:09
I think it saves us money. | 22:10
No, I think this is fascinating. | 22:12
as you all were talking, I'm thinking, like, I'm a younger person. | 22:14
I'm a millennial, and the idea of the metaverse kind of scares me. | 22:19
And I'm like you're right. | 22:25
Like what you were saying, this is the future. | 22:27
I kind of feel like a traditional older person who's just resistant to this idea is like, one more thing I have to learn on top of everything else. | 22:30
I think the stance that I have is, like, I'll learn it when I have to, but I feel like I'm missing out on this huge opportunity. | 22:41
what is something that people can do now or dip their toe in to get started? | 22:49
What would you recommend? | 22:57
I think there's a lot of different things, and it depends on what interests you the most, because, like I said, web three is pretty big. | 22:59
Right? | 23:06
Some people are fascinated by crypto. | 23:07
Some people are interested in NFT. | 23:09
Some people find the metaverse interesting. | 23:11
I would say that, figure out which one of those you're most curious about and then do the first thing. | 23:14
for people who have followed us, we do wine and wallets, and we basically do zoom calls like this, where we tell everyone, bring your favorite bottle of wine and a glass. | 23:23
Come join us. | 23:39
For a conversation to learn how to set up a digital wallet. | 23:40
the reason that I do that isn't because I want people to go out and buy stuff, right? | 23:44
That's not the point. | 23:49
The point is, take your first step towards the thing that you're most curious about, and once you set up a wallet, that opens up a couple of options. | 23:50
You can buy crypto. | 24:01:00
You can buy NFTs. | 24:03:00
Well, that's interesting, right? | 24:04:00
Maybe you buy a very inexpensive NFT. | 24:06:00
Like for example, our NFTs are called bad b******. | 24:09:00
if you were just curious about doing it, you could set up your wallet, buy a Bad B**** NFT, it's in your wallet. | 24:13:00
There's nothing like life changing about that act. | 24:24:00
what it does is it removes some of those barriers, because a lot of them are psychological barriers that keep us from doing something. | 24:29:00
we're scared of it because it feels daunting. | 24:39:00
Because you got to think of going from point A to point Z. | 24:42:00
You don't you just have to take baby steps towards it. | 24:45:00
if you're interested in the metaverse, I would say to people, go on spatial IO, because it allows you to set up a little mini metaverse or roadblocks. | 24:49:00
That's what a lot of the young kids use. | 25:00:00
Right. | 25:02:00
You can create your own game. | 25:03:00
It's not so much about knowing everything, because none of us are expert, especially Web Three, right? | 25:04:00
It's how do you just take the first step into knowing something you didn't know yesterday, and then guess what? | 25:13:00
It's going to make you curious enough to learn something else about it. | 25:22:00
And then I think it just snowballs. | 25:26:00
The thing that I worry the most about is your first comment, which is, as a millennial, some of this is scary to you, and some of it is unfamiliar, but I don't want to be held back by those notions any longer. | 25:29:00
I think that has held women and people of color back so much by this notion that it's impossible, it's hard, it's something that I don't have time for. | 25:45:00
all of a sudden, it becomes the thing. | 25:59:00
And guess what? | 26:02:00
You got to make time for it. | 26:03:00
you didn't have a chance to have a voice in it. | 26:05:00
Right? | 26:11:00
Yeah. | 26:13:00
Which is we have to be here to build it because we will not like what other people build for us. | 26:15:00
in my mind, when I say build it doesn't mean you have to be a tech architect or an engineer or a developer. | 26:23:00
You just got to get involved in what people are doing here to say, oh, here's where I fit. | 26:31:00
Here's what I can contribute. | 26:37:00
Here's what I can do. | 26:39:00
Come join some of the Twitter spaces that we have here. | 26:41:00
Right? | 26:44:00
our Twitter space called Bad B**** is bullshit in the blockchain. | 26:45:00
Well, guess what we talk about, right? | 26:49:00
We don't just talk about the technology. | 26:51:00
We don't just talk about crypto. | 26:54:00
NFTs metaverse. | 26:56:00
What we talk about is what are the real world problems that we are still faced with? | 26:57:00
How can technology start to solve those? | 27:02:00
Doesn't mean we have all the answers. | 27:06:00
It means that we are exploring the possibilities, which means we'll come up with better answers. | 27:08:00
Yeah, I wanted to add there too, is that even you just being present starts to in technology today. | 27:14:00
They use metrics, they use KPIs to make decisions. | 27:22:00
you're a part of that population now, that's also just a way to have the same influence that. | 27:25:00
You were talking about. | 27:30:00
it's not always about knowing something or even being great at it, but it's also just about being there sometimes. | 27:31:00
Being present and having your voice heard. | 27:37:00
Because I can tell you that I step into a lot of different spaces, particularly on Twitter. | 27:41:00
It seems to be one like, I guess, clubhouse was that a number of years ago as a place where people talked about a variety of things. | 27:47:00
I think Twitter is another space where Web Three people gather and I've spent a lot of time in other people's spaces. | 27:54:00
when I hear something that goes against kind of the grain of what I think were all here to do, the presence of my voice with my convictions have a way of changing how people either articulate themselves or think about what really does matter that's impactful. | 28:02:00
Because then you're really shaping the dialogue and the discussion and the outcomes because they hear a different perspective that maybe they weren't either expecting or didn't know to look for. | 28:27:00
Because some of those spaces are very homogeneous, right? | 28:45:00
Same old crypto bros that came from the same old colleges that grew up in the same type of neighborhoods. | 28:49:00
Doesn't necessarily give a great diverse perspective on how to think about problem solving. | 28:56:00
So that's what I do. | 29:03:00
I mix it up sometimes. | 29:07:00
I love that. | 29:12:00
I feel like this is like good wisdom knowledge gyms dropping right now. | 29:13:00
I guess I'm wondering as we've talked about what is the first step that someone can do as they're curious about web three and really the importance of our voice. | 29:19:00
A lot of our listeners are black women and so the importance of the presence of our voices in these spaces and our experiences being represented on the front end, like while the space is still being developed, I guess. | 29:32:00
there any other last wisdom knowledge that you would leave the audience with? | 29:50:00
I know that's a big ask. | 29:57:00
I don't know that I am the wisdom leader by any chance, but what I'd like to say is build your community, find your people and start your journey because there's no better time than the present. | 30:00:00
We are literally in a point in the economy where there's going to be some pretty deep, dark days because I do think that we are headed for a recession. | 30:19:00
I think they're determined to push us into a recession because they're trying to deal with what's going on with prices and inflation. | 30:33:00
we're going to be in an interesting time. | 30:42:00
what I'd like for black women in particular to understand is that we have always been resilient through the hardest, most difficult times and we've navigated that landscape and we've traversed all kinds of worlds, right? | 30:45:00
And we've pulled things together. | 31:05:00
Don't let this one be one that we don't have a voice in. | 31:08:00
It doesn't have to be, right? | 31:14:00
find your people who are curious and interested and go learn with them. | 31:17:00
That is exactly what we are building here, is just come with us. | 31:22:00
Just come with us, right? | 31:28:00
I was like, I'll be your new best friend, so come with us and we will do what we have to do together, because we can learn from one another, we can have a voice and we can make all the difference in the world. | 31:29:00
I just want black women to know, we see you, we know how important you've always been to the future and making sure you hold it together for everybody else. | 31:41:00
Don't get left behind this time. | 31:58:00
Just don't. | 32:00:00
You can do this. | 32:02:00
I'm telling you, if I can do it at 56, everybody can do it. | 32:03:00
Everybody. | 32:08:00
That's so good, guys. | 32:08:00
She said you have a friend, so if you need someone to go with, so tell them how they can get with you, then. | 32:10:00
probably the first place I would send people is to our website and our website, because our company is called WomenX Meta. | 32:16:00
Pretty easy. | 32:24:00
Go to our website. | 32:25:00
Womenxmeda XYZ. | 32:27:00
that's going to be the new part. | 32:30:00
XYZ. | 32:32:00
Nobody knows that, right? | 32:32:00
That's the new world, XYZ. | 32:34:00
When you go there, the first thing that's going to pop up for you is a bad b****'s blockchain Bible. | 32:36:00
It's free. | 32:42:00
Take it, read it. | 32:44:00
It's not very long, just a few pages. | 32:46:00
Read it and see what you learn, right? | 32:48:00
you can connect with us through all the social media platforms just by going to our website. | 32:52:00
They're all there. | 32:58:00
The links are there. | 32:59:00
You can learn more about who we are, but you can also find all of our information, too, because we put this stuff out for free across all the social media. | 33:00:00
It doesn't get any better than that. | 33:12:00
I can tell you can do it on your commute home, you can do it when you're laying in bed on your phone. | 33:14:00
It's so easy to learn that way. | 33:20:00
if you're really interested, we're going to start doing actual classes and courses that you can take with us. | 33:24:00
like I said, we don't come at you as experts, we're coming at you as community members who we're learning together. | 33:32:00
Awesome. | 33:41:00
Yeah. | 33:44:00
I love that so much and how you framed it. | 33:45:00
I always love having guests come on the show because I feel like we're listening. | 33:47:00
To these messages and stuff. | 33:54:00
I want to go follow you and check out your website in the back, which is Bible. | 33:56:00
I don't coerce anybody to do it, but yes, you better. | 34:03:00
Yes. | 34:06:00
No. | 34:07:00
I love it. | 34:08:00
It has been a true joy to have you on the show. | 34:09:00
Sovanna today in all the gyms, all the knowledge, even though you said you are not the one with the knowledge and the gyms, I feel like I learned a lot. | 34:12:00
Well, that's excellent. | 34:22:00
Look, I am inspired by women like you who are brave enough, courageous enough to host your own podcast and bring people's voices to the center. | 34:24:00
And that's just a beautiful thing. | 34:38:00
thank you for giving so much time to black women. | 34:40:00
We have not been given that in the past and we appreciate it. | 34:48:00
Absolutely. | 34:54:00
So you all heard it here. | 34:55:00
You all check out Sivana day goins. | 34:58:00
I know it's going to mess that up. | 35:04:00
Sovanna Day Goins and her team at WomenX Meta and you can find them online, womenxmeda XYZ and then on all of the social platforms and they have tons of materials to read from. | 35:06:00
You have recent interviews on Bloomberg and amazing things that you all have out there right now, which I think is amazing. | 35:22:00
So thank you so much again. | 35:31:00
Until next time. | 35:34:00
I'm you girl avenue Marie. | 35:36:00
And I'm Shauna Dixon. | 35:37:00
And we are black. | 35:38:00
Girl five. | 35:39:00