Black Girl Fly: Embrace Purpose + Build Wealth

Tech Table Talk with Arthur Edge

February 20, 2023 Tenisha & Tashaunda Season 5 Episode 3
Black Girl Fly: Embrace Purpose + Build Wealth
Tech Table Talk with Arthur Edge
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On today's episode of Black Girl Fly, we speak with Arthur Edge, National Professional Chair at NSBE. We take a deep dive into the tech industry, specifically layoffs and the Great Resignation. Arthur also drops a few gems on the importance of reinventing yourself and gives advice to college students and early career professionals. Tashuanda, Tenisha, and Arthur give their take on the importance of multiple peer groups and instant gratification. 

You can find Arthur at:
Instagram: @arthuredge
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/arthuredge

EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
[:23] Introduction
[1:53] Arthur explains NSBE and their work
[2:56] Why is Arthur on the podcast
[5:00] Layoffs and the Great Resignation
[9:23] Ad: All business, no boundaries
[10:13] Importance of reinventing yourself 
[12:40] Advice for college students
[20:43] Peer groups ad careers 
[25:00] Investing in real estate and house hacking
[26:45] Microwave Culture 
[27:30] Biggest Takeaways and Final Words

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Welcome back to another episode of Black Girl Flight. | 0:22
I'm your girl. | 0:24
Tanesha nicole. | 0:25
And I'm Shama Dixon. | 0:26
And today, y'all, we have a guest. | 0:27
we have a wonderful guest joining us. | 0:33
I know you all have been loving these interviews, and so we're thrilled to bring another perspective, another insight to the podcast. | 0:35
without further ado, I will hand it over to our guest. | 0:44
Hey, glad to be here. | 0:48
I am Arthur Edge, the full government Arthur Leon Edge the third. | 0:50
Okay. | 0:55
Who I am? | 0:55
No. | 0:57
Names are important. | 0:57
Right? | 0:58
Names are important. | 0:59
Who am I? | 1:01
Wow. | 1:02
So many things. | 1:03
I like to call myself an innovator, strategist, and problem solver, but I think it's what other people call you that's most important. | 1:05
right now, I have the pleasure to spend a lot of my time outside of my day job volunteering. | 1:13
one area that I really spend a lot of my time is with this nonprofit, the National Society of Black Engineers, and currently serve as their National Professionals chair. | 1:19
And, wow, it can be a lot of work right. | 1:30
When you really give your heart to something, but it's giving much more back to me. | 1:35
It's a little bit about me. | 1:40
Yeah. | 1:42
Let's dig in. | 1:44
So, wait, I think we want to make sure everybody understands what it is. | 1:45
So so tell us about the organization. | 1:48
What does it do? | 1:50
Oh, yeah. | 1:51
I can give you all of the elevator pitches and all of that. | 1:53
Well, the organization's been around for a while, since 1975, actually, and its mission really is about helping black engineers across the continuum of the pipeline. | 1:57
whether that's excelling academically, succeeding professionally, or impacting the community, we have chapters that are precollege collegiate and then professional chapters, those in the workforce, and we really support them to do those things that I mentioned in the mission. | 2:10
we have members all across the US. | 2:26
As well as internationally, and I have the pleasure of making all of that magic come together right. | 2:28
Really impacting people at the grassroots level. | 2:35
That is super cool. | 2:38
Yeah. | 2:40
tell us why you're here. | 2:40
The guests might be wondering, like, okay, we got these black engineers in the house on the Black Girlfly podcast. | 2:42
What's going on right now that is important for us to connect? | 2:51
Yeah, I think there's a lot going on. | 2:56
Right. | 2:58
Anyone watching any of the headlines about engineering and specifically the tech industry see that there are massive layoffs right. | 2:58
Everywhere. | 3:08
And it happened quickly. | 3:09
Right. | 3:10
Very fast. | 3:10
Very fast. | 3:11
And it's still happening. | 3:12
Right. | 3:13
If you check your feed today, you might see a post on Twitter that you might be controversial. | 3:14
Right. | 3:19
And in that space right. | 3:20
What is the black experience like, and then how does that roll out and impact the black community? | 3:24
We already know intake. | 3:30
Pick any of the major companies facebook, Google. | 3:32
Right. | 3:36
The number of blacks who are there is already small 1%, 2%, you're doing great if it's 3%, right? | 3:37
in a place where you think I've made it right, all of these positions play pay at least six figures, but typically well above that. | 3:46
And now it's like, well, what's happened? | 3:59
Right? | 4:02
And how do you respond to that? | 4:02
how have you set yourself up to be in a good position now, potentially financially? | 4:06
are you seeing any trends in these layoffs, particularly in the black community? | 4:11
Like, what's happening to those one and 2%? | 4:16
Are they being laid off too, or I mean, what are we seeing? | 4:19
Yeah, I haven't seen any the layoffs are not discriminating. | 4:23
Right. | 4:28
They aren't disproportionately, I think, impacting black people. | 4:29
when you talk about, I think, diversity in the workplace and the importance of it being present, if you already have less than a critical mass and then that isn't present anymore. | 4:32
Right. | 4:47
What does that mean for the products that the companies are making? | 4:48
what does that mean to be represented and to have a voice? | 4:51
I think that's the bigger impact outside of just the personal experience. | 4:53
Yeah. | 4:59
we've talked a lot this year about the great resignation and really like the other side of the coin where there's so much opportunity now. | 4:59
how do we have both of these stories coexisting where we're hearing of layoffs and people involuntarily being removed or displaced right from their workplace, but then the great resignation where folks are voluntarily leaving to seek out the many plentiful and bountiful opportunities that exist because we live in a world where you can do things on the Internet. | 5:08
I'm like. | 5:32
how do you navigate both of those spaces, both the opportunity and the tragedy of loss right now? | 5:33
I think it's tough when we think about this space. | 5:39
It's certainly been pitched and branded as the land of opportunity. | 5:44
Right. | 5:50
You can have zero to one years of experience and like I mentioned, comes straight out of undergrad. | 5:51
you don't even have to have a tech degree. | 5:58
You can be able to code and have the right certifications and earn one hundred K, one hundred and fifty K or more starting out in your career. | 6:02
At the same time, I think there is and has been of cockiness and security in the space where there's been this illusion that you're untouchable, right? | 6:13
And that there's this job security. | 6:30
particularly in the tech industry, it's much more of a company of one contractor. | 6:32
Like working for myself, even if I'm with an employer, the way that my salary structure is even put together is that it's like a three year horizon. | 6:39
I think those working in the industry haven't really leaned into and bought into what that means. | 6:49
if you were managing yourself like a business of one, how do you prepare yourself for the risk? | 6:58
I think that's how I think about it. | 7:04
As a more mature perspective of the opportunity and the tragedy. | 7:08
It really shouldn't be a tragedy. | 7:13
Let's talk about it, though. | 7:15
what I heard you say is that it's really just a different way of doing business today than it was 1015 years ago. | 7:16
so how does someone walk into that? | 7:24
What, are you walking into one? | 7:27
what does that three years look like? | 7:29
What do you do? | 7:31
Yeah, I mean, this is part of it, like Personal Finance 101, right? | 7:33
Are you thinking about the famine that might come? | 7:41
Right. | 7:46
The massive layoff that might come, the change in the industry that might come? | 7:46
as you're enjoying your experience and the land of luxury, did you save? | 7:49
Right. | 7:57
also, did you think about your talents that you might use outside of just building an app for Pick company of choice? | 7:59
how can you be actually a contractor? | 8:06
Right? | 8:12
there something you were doing in addition to your job or on the side that can earn you income to get over if you haven't really put some savings in your coffers? | 8:12
being open to changing industries. | 8:22
Right. | 8:29
I think and this is not just applying to tech. | 8:29
Sometimes you have to reinvent yourself, and if you haven't thought about that can be a challenge right now. | 8:33
Yeah, so I think about I'm like I'm always reinventing myself. | 8:42
I'm like, do we have specific recommendations? | 8:47
I was trying to think of some off the top of my head for reinvention because I feel like for some people, that can be scary. | 8:50
Like, I think about the story of football players, right? | 8:57
Like, these people have literally been born throwing a football, and when their careers end in their late 20s, sometimes early 20s, early 30s, they don't know what to do with themselves. | 9:00
the same could be true for career engineers or anyone who's spent a career, a lifetime doing something. | 9:12
Like, how can we encourage people to reinvent themselves? | 9:18
Yeah. | 9:25
I think about maintaining your network so that you can have insights to what the trends are, what's going to be the next hot thing. | 9:25
And, I mean, I can talk about the space that I'm in because that's what came to mind first. | 9:37
if you've been working in artificial intelligence and machine learning, but you've been applying it to big data, collecting all the information, that you do a search, and Google has all your information. | 9:43
Right. | 10:02
If you've been working on understanding that data, well, industries like Biotech and medicine need those same insights to understand patients and patient behavior and how to better deliver health care. | 10:02
You could take your skills and reinvent yourselves, applying them to a different problem. | 10:18
if you haven't been open to that or exposed to that, it's difficult. | 10:23
Yeah, I think my favorite example is, like, what do you call your industry? | 10:29
Pharma? | 10:34
Bio. | 10:35
Biotech. | 10:36
BioFarm. | 10:37
Yeah. | 10:38
Really cool. | 10:38
Translation of that area is actually beer. | 10:39
Yeah, that's a good example. | 10:44
That's so fascinating to me. | 10:46
Like, they have these big machines, they do scientific processes to be what a great opportunity. | 10:47
Completely different. | 10:57
If I saw that on your resume, I wouldn't correlate the two, right? | 10:58
No, that's cool. | 11:02
Yeah. | 11:03
The science of making beer, right? | 11:03
Fermentation is very similar to getting sales to do other things, like making medicines, and we do take advantage of that. | 11:07
We also call our happy hours fermentation hour. | 11:15
I love that as a concept, as we close out the year, we've been doing a lot of reflection about what the year has been versus what next year could be. | 11:21
I think if there's any wisdom that any folks want to land on the table, I want to say. | 11:38
Before that I feel like the advice you've given thus far has been really for people already in their career. | 11:45
What about that other segment, the people who are in school now? | 11:50
Like, what do they do in the same type of environment? | 11:53
How do they prepare? | 11:56
I mean, even if it's an understanding of what your career looks like now, that it's not what your parents are probably trying to teach you about a career. | 11:57
I think in some ways you all remember 2008. | 12:05
Do you want to remember that? | 12:10
Okay, what you're trying to say. | 12:13
like, 2008 was a time when there was a recession and there was lots of job loss and it was hard for college students to start their careers professionally. | 12:15
And this is eerily similar to that. | 12:24
I think it's a bit of a stretch. | 12:27
Well, I want to say, though, so. | 12:28
First of all, go back home if. | 12:29
You need to, right. | 12:31
Move in with mom and dad or cousin. | 12:33
I'm going to say, though, because just like 2008, like the housing crisis and all that, we're in a similar spot where housing is so expensive, right. | 12:36
That's why I'm going back. | 12:45
And then inflation. | 12:49
Find the opportunity and understanding now, by the way, that your career is only three years long, and so you may need to go back to mama's house to save that money because, your transition may come sooner than later. | 12:50
Right. | 13:03
I have to drop this one. | 13:04
I heard that chitlins are $40 a bucket right now. | 13:05
I was just saying time zone, left field. | 13:09
Where are you going? | 13:12
Wow. | 13:13
Okay. | 13:14
On discount for the low, thanks to our expert. | 13:20
No, you kind of ask the question of if I had to do it again, right, what would I say to my younger self? | 13:27
I don't actually know what I would say to myself, but in the role that I'm in, I spend a lot of time thinking about folks in the workforce. | 13:35
I mentioned in Nesbi and the organization, there are also a lot of youth. | 13:47
I get asked this question actually a lot. | 13:52
Like, how do I move from a to B, right. | 13:54
Seems so far away. | 13:57
I was just talking to a young lady, young black girl in 10th grade just last week kind of about this and sharing things I wish I would have known and wish I would have done. | 13:59
I think if you're going into tech in the future and in this space, there's a lot of money out there actually untapped for scholarships while you're in college at the undergrad level and don't do what I did. | 14:13
Right. | 14:31
I mean, I was very fortunate to get a scholarship, an academic scholarship. | 14:32
my parents had invested of money in one of those state plans where I had a couple of college years covered. | 14:36
I was getting kind of fat refund checks. | 14:44
I was spending those refund checks, going out, dining, but kind of in a funny way, bringing it full circle to tech. | 14:47
Right. | 15:02
This company called Amazon had just gotten started. | 15:03
Were they just doing books then? | 15:08
They were just doing these things called books that you could buy these Amazon. | 15:09
Hustler back in the day, selling everything. | 15:15
I'd have to look up exactly what the stock price was then. | 15:18
I've looked at this over time that if you had bought $500 worth of shares when it IPOed, just $500, I had that more than that. | 15:25
Every fun check. | 15:37
Yeah, yeah, like a couple of weeks Saturday, that was done. | 15:39
That would be a few years ago. | 15:44
More than half a million dollars. | 15:48
on the time horizon of a career. | 15:50
I've been working like 15 years in my career. | 15:52
I'm just going to say I could use another half a million dollars. | 15:55
Right? | 15:59
Yeah, I'm good, but I'm not that good right now. | 15:59
you have that time horizon, right, as a student, where you can really set yourself up and you could have half a million dollars just off of investing, starting an undergrad and not spending your money. | 16:05
Not spending your money. | 16:20
Let me put it all together. | 16:21
You're saying that get the money because there's money out there, so don't be lazy. | 16:23
Get the money for the money, free. | 16:28
Money, and then use that money to. | 16:30
Really invest and understand that you need a cushion and that there are faster ways to grow your money. | 16:33
Right. | 16:40
when you work for this potential tech company 15 years in your career and they're like, see you're like, I don't need you any way because I own body, your company. | 16:40
Right. | 16:55
That's a change in mindset that I. | 16:57
Wish I had that say the same thing, too. | 16:58
Yeah, we definitely. | 17:02
I think that's just like, just in general nowadays, I think that I would say my parents grew up in a time where there was more of a relationship with employers, and they kept here for 20 years, and that was normal. | 17:05
That doesn't happen anymore. | 17:18
That's not a thing. | 17:20
so I didn't get any career, really? | 17:22
Be prepared that it's not as long it's going to end, something's going to happen. | 17:24
I think for our generation, it's actually more beneficial for us to leave. | 17:30
It's easier for us to get promotions, easier for us to get raises. | 17:36
Yes. | 17:40
I was going to say they actually did a study, I can't remember when it was, but that people got more growth and income from leaving than they did from staying in their organizations, and that people know that now. | 17:40
if you don't get promoted in three years, you leave out, you're done, you just go. | 17:53
I actually had that experience in my first, I guess, real job where I should have left it three years. | 18:00
And I didn't know that. | 18:09
No one told me that. | 18:10
Okay. | 18:12
Yeah, I mean, people don't know this, and I've just learned this as I've moved up in my career from being an individual contributor to a manager and a director in my space, that you start to get access to information and you're like, oh, this is how we do it. | 18:13
This is the secret policy that they don't tell you about. | 18:27
many companies, those I've worked for have an internal salary system and an external offer salary system. | 18:30
if you stay right, the salary increase might be 510 percent right. | 18:44
On a promotion, maybe 15. | 18:50
You really made a jump in career level, but external, right, because it's not just the promotion, but bringing in the talent. | 18:52
You have to attract someone to leave where they currently are. | 19:00
You know, it's very easy to get. | 19:02
20% and different types of bonuses, sign on and all that other stuff that they'll throw in to sweeten the pot. | 19:04
Yeah, I learned that game really young, good info. | 19:11
And and this is true, though. | 19:15
It's the people don't have access to that information, especially if you hadn't got there yet in your career. | 19:16
I think it's super important for people who are just starting out to hear this kind of stuff, because no one's telling you, right, there's a secret code that you're not invited to, but. | 19:21
Who would actually tell you that? | 19:29
A mentor. | 19:32
I'm trying to think of the channels in which this information would come to you. | 19:33
I don't even know that a mentor. | 19:36
Would I feel like culturally, it's taboo to talk about, right? | 19:38
Like you're not supposed to share the secrets. | 19:43
Yeah, I would say certainly I think we shared this before, but certainly among our peer groups, weren't even comfortable talking that much. | 19:45
And I think that's super weird. | 19:52
I talk to all my friends, I'm like, this is what I make, . | 19:55
Well, I was going to say I was uncomfortable. | 20:01
I was uncomfortable because I made more than all my friends. | 20:03
Let's talk about friends. | 20:07
That could be it. | 20:14
So, I mean, I think we have a hashtag, have the conversation, and this is just another example of having that conversation, whatever that may be. | 20:15
But I think it's important. | 20:24
Let's talk about that though. | 20:25
The peer group thing, I think that is an important aspect of it that I didn't know about. | 20:26
Right. | 20:32
I was just hanging out with all these people who didn't understand what I was going through, couldn't relate. | 20:32
in fact, I come to find out that they kind of thought I was a little up to these that kind of thing. | 20:36
Right. | 20:42
can we talk about that ? | 20:43
What about peer groups? | 20:45
Where are you going with that? | 20:46
I mean, I was thinking about two things, right? | 20:47
It's okay to have multiple circles. | 20:50
I think you always have your friends and sometimes they're the folks that you grew up with or the folks you went to school with. | 20:53
even your family can be in this circle. | 21:02
why is it great to have them? | 21:06
Because those are the people who will call you up at the right, who don't care who you are, who can humble you despite all your degrees that supposedly keep you warm at night. | 21:08
Right. | 21:18
those people are important, but if you have some goals that aren't shared with those individuals, you need another group of people further along than you. | 21:19
that the phrase, the five people right. | 21:31
In your circle take the average right where you'll be. | 21:34
I need some of those people in my circle who got the half a million who made that decision when they were in undergrad to pull me forward. | 21:39
Yeah, well, not only that, though, let's talk about understanding and how they spend their time. | 21:48
I mean, the reason that they are where they are is because it's a habit, because it's their thoughts, because of the things that create them or make up who they are. | 21:54
Right. | 22:03
if you're not hanging around people with the right stuff, then you won't have that stuff either. | 22:03
Or even if you are in that kind of environment and you're trying to do more, they don't understand. | 22:08
They can't relate. | 22:14
They're asking you questions about why you're doing what it is you're doing. | 22:15
They don't understand your goals. | 22:18
There's so much to it. | 22:19
Yeah, I think that it can be a challenging right. | 22:23
Because I sometimes feel like there's this peer pressure. | 22:28
Right. | 22:35
You often love these people. | 22:36
Right. | 22:38
You have a shared connection and you also have to protect yourself and your dreams. | 22:38
sometimes that means not sharing all of that or all of you with that circle. | 22:44
in this end of the year time, right, when you're thinking about next year and maybe you've lost your job and are spending a lot more time with your friends and family, enjoy that experience for what it is, but think about where you need to expand your circle starting the year. | 22:52
Yeah, I think that's good. | 23:11
I think we kind of got there a weird way, but it was necessary. | 23:12
expanding your circle, we wish we would have invested in Amazon back in the day. | 23:17
I don't think that was another reason. | 23:24
To take away exactly. | 23:25
I mean, I think the same is true. | 23:28
We have an uncle who does real estate and he would invest in real estate with actually true story. | 23:30
He took his college refund and bought his first flip. | 23:37
That is a great use of that money. | 23:41
True story. | 23:44
He was on a football scholarship full ride, and so he actually got a pretty big refund and he used that money. | 23:45
He bought his first property coming out of school and he lived in it because he was single with no kids. | 23:52
Right. | 23:58
He's fresh out of college and he flipped it. | 23:59
that's how he started all of his real estate stuff. | 24:01:00
He's got properties on properties. | 24:04:00
one of the approaches right, is flipping it. | 24:07:00
I love that. | 24:10:00
the other thing I think about with real estate and for those starting out, I mean, it doesn't have to just be starting out. | 24:11:00
It can just be the right thing for you. | 24:18:00
Why don't we and I don't see this largely in the black community house hack. | 24:20:00
You guys talked about this. | 24:31:00
Blueprint. | 24:36:00
It's huge. | 24:38:00
It's something you can do when you're young, though, very easily having roommates. | 24:40:00
And it's so funny though, because I. | 24:46:00
Think that to that you're talking about the circle. | 24:47:00
I just thought about what could you do with your circle? | 24:49:00
You all can move to the same place and live together. | 24:51:00
No, that's very easy. | 24:54:00
I think we see it in different communities. | 24:57:00
Like, I used to work with a bunch of people who were from India and they worked in tech. | 24:59:00
even though they all made nice salaries, they all lived there was like four of them living in a two bedroom apartment. | 25:06:00
not only that, by the way, they would like, potluck, their dinner, their lunch. | 25:11:00
Instead of going like Americans, we'd be like, we got to go to the restaurant. | 25:15:00
We all turn up at that restaurant buying bottles and lunch. | 25:19:00
And they actually did potluck and everything. | 25:24:00
I'm saying that because I don't think that we think about the decisions we make financially all the time because it's not socially normal. | 25:26:00
Right. | 25:36:00
It's not socially acceptable in our communities. | 25:36:00
Well, I also just feel like we're more of a microwave culture. | 25:39:00
Like we want it now, we want the enjoyment, the satisfaction now. | 25:43:00
the idea of having to wait to some unspecified time can be a hard concept. | 25:48:00
I think there's the microwave culture, but I also think there's something called pride that doesn't look like having made it right. | 25:56:00
I want to have made it right. | 26:04:00
Bring out the whole word. | 26:10:00
Right? | 26:11:00
Yeah. | 26:14:00
1990S, like 2000s, maybe. | 26:15:00
Kids, don't say that no more. | 26:20:00
I don't think so. | 26:22:00
No. | 26:23:00
Okay, I'm done. | 26:24:00
no, I do think you're right though. | 26:26:00
It's a combination of instant gratification and looking like something right. | 26:28:00
We've worked this hard in our careers. | 26:34:00
And I deserve it. | 26:37:00
Yeah, I deserve it. | 26:38:00
Exactly. | 26:39:00
I deserve it. | 26:40:00
Culture. | 26:41:00
How about that? | 26:41:00
Just to sum it up, we touched on a number of things, and what are the biggest highlights, I guess, in this episode or the biggest takeaways? | 26:45:00
Because I have like, five. | 26:52:00
Don't put Amazon in there, please. | 26:54:00
Amazon. | 26:56:00
They might become a future sponsor. | 26:57:00
We're trying to support you. | 27:01:00
No, but I would say what is your biggest takeaway from this lesson? | 27:04:00
What is the one thing that if you could have done this differently as a younger person two decades ago, what would you have done? | 27:08:00
Well, I heard the plan for the shorter career. | 27:17:00
I think that was huge. | 27:19:00
Like no, this is a three year game. | 27:20:00
Thank you. | 27:24:00
Yeah, I think it's, it's planned for the short term, but it's also planned for the long term. | 27:26:00
Right. | 27:35:00
It's okay to take that sum of money and put a risk on the future because if you never do that, you'll never get the big wins that come with that awesome. | 27:35:00
That was good. | 27:46:00
I know. | 27:47:00
Like Dang, I can't really follow that. | 27:47:00
Come on. | 27:52:00
Oh, my goodness. | 27:56:00
I guess that I'm going to say until next time, because I think those were some jibs. | 27:57:00
If you all didn't hear it, rewind and listen to this episode a couple more times. | 28:05:00
I think that it's really not too late to do some of these things. | 28:11:00
Now, if you're experiencing the job loss we're talking about, or if you're in college, high school, thinking about starting a career in tech or any other field, like there are gyms in here. | 28:16:00
And also you might meet Mr. | 28:27:00
Arthur Edge if you join. | 28:28:00
N***. | 28:30:00
Come on, Mr. | 28:31:00
N***. | 28:32:00
Well, I appreciate you joining us. | 28:35:00
Thank you. | 28:37:00
With your gems and your insights. | 28:37:00
Any final words for the people? | 28:39:00
No, I mean, I think during this season right. | 28:43:00
Take your time to reflect, to relax, to rejuvenate. | 28:46:00
Take some time for yourself, particularly if you've been impacted by job loss. | 28:51:00
This is an opportunity to really have some quiet time grieve that loss because that's a process and of itself, probably another episode, but you need to go through that to then hit it hard right at the top of the year. | 28:57:00
that's just my words of wisdom there. | 29:12:00
Take the time, experience what's going on, and then use that to move forward. | 29:16:00
Excellent. | 29:20:00
And where can the people find you? | 29:21:00
On the Internet street. | 29:23:00
On the Internet street. | 29:24:00
Find me on IG at Arthur Edge on LinkedIn. | 29:26:00
Arthur Edge. | 29:30:00
Those are really the places that if you really want to reach me, I will respond there. | 29:32:00
I'm on all the other socials, but don't hit me in the DM. | 29:38:00
Okay. | 29:42:00
I really did. | 29:42:00
We got it. | 29:43:00
We got it. | 29:44:00
Well, thank you so very much. | 29:45:00
It was a pleasure. | 29:46:00
Pleasure having you. | 29:47:00
And until next time, you all. | 29:49:00
I am your girl. | 29:51:00
Tanisha Nicole. | 29:51:00
And I'm Shauna Dixon. | 29:52:00
And we are black, girl. | 29:53:00
Fly. | 29:55:00

Introduction
Arthur explains NSBE and their work
Why is Arthur on the podcast?
Layoffs and the Great Resignation
Importance of reinventing yourself
Advice for college students
Peer groups ad careers
Investing in real estate and house hacking
Microwave Culture
Biggest Takeaways and Final Words